i mean, in virginia tech there was a clear situation, and we had certain laws in place, privacy laws, that don't allow parents to be able to effectively engage to sort of help in this situation. >> and there were armed guards on campus in virginia tech, just like there were armed guards in columbine. >> i'm not arguing that point. i'm saying how do we get to the solution, and i think just jumping to conclusions here, i think we need a thoughtful process to really resolve this because this was a horrific incident that i think everyone would agree has not and we want to not happen again. >> david winston, thank you for your time today. i appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> coming up next, we're going to get a live report from one of the nation's busiest airports as a big storm threatens to affect holiday travel across the country. plus, the disconnect between states and the federal government when it comes to marriage equality and the supreme court battle that lies ahead in the new year. a >>> the south, the midwest expected to get hit by the end of the week. dave gutierrez joins us live fro